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In this brief video you can find seven little known facts about Northern Cyprus.
More information about the video content bellow:
1. Northern Cyprus, officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, is a self-declared state that comprises the northeastern portion of the island of Cyprus. Recognized only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community to be part of the Republic of Cyprus.
2. A coup d'état in 1974, performed as part of an attempt to annex the island to Greece, prompted the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. This resulted in the eviction of much of the north's Greek Cypriot population, the flight of Turkish Cypriots from the south, and the partitioning of the island, leading to a unilateral declaration of independence by the North in 1983. Due to its lack of recognition, Northern Cyprus is heavily dependent on Turkey for economic, political and military support.
3. Northern Cyprus has an area of 3,355 square kilometres (1,295 sq mi), which amounts to around a third of the island. 162,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly evicted from their homes in the North by the invading force of the Turkish army. Today the vast majority of northerners are either native Turkish Cypriots or Turkish settlers.
4. Nicosia is the capital city of both the North and South, making it the only city in Europe (since the fall of the Berlin wall) that is split by a border, although you can travel freely through checkpoints since the easing of border controls.
5. Famagusta is an ancient city, almost completely enclosed by thick stone walls. St. Paul once preached nearby and the city once had 365 churches, one for every day of the year.
6. An old trading ship, along with its cargo, which sailed the Mediterranean Sea during the time of Alexander the Great can be seen in the Shipwreck Museum in Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus.
7. The European Union decided in 2000 to accept Cyprus as a member, even if it was divided. Cyprus entered the European Union divided, with the effects of membership suspended for Northern Cyprus.
Lucas D – Rainy Day
Go to hell from me. You probably have a Greek girl. I mean her appearance, it explains to you all attempts. Cyprus is the only one not north or south. Or else we will begin to say Greeks, Est Greece. It means geographically you are not where you are but deep in Asia. As the young children know from Sweden to other parts of the world, the Aegean Sea is Greek. Mythology history all talks of it. Your own people you have in Europe but it's not of European heritage is Albanian and parts of Slovenian and i mean people not land. I have lots of Turkish friends and no one call cuprus for North Spread love truth and be honest. whose country´s it is?
+Vladmir Lenin I dont think the Greek armed forces will let it happen , the USA backed undemocratic Greek junta is not controlling the army and and government of Greece like they did in 1974 helping NATO USA Turkey Britain take 30 % of Cyprus from the Cypriots in 1974 as was planned for the longest time.
machristos hahahahahah😂😂 please cry harder baby boy!!! There is a big ass border in the land. North Cyprus Republic of Turkey❤️ 34% of your old land is now from us!!👅 you can't do nothing about it bro!! Full with Turkish army 😘
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the danmed cruel thieving turks murdered Cypriots & stole North of Cyprus in the 1970s! 2018 & 2019 those anti-Man turks should find it easy to TRULY REPENT & GIVE BACK WHAT THEY stole in the 1970s! As for what their perverted roman & babylonian ancestors stole - mainland turkey (Ancient Greece), well that's can also be solved amicably with the Introduction of HOLACY In PARADISE Like Communities, when WE all realise WE can all Live as The Kings, Queens, Princes & Princesses WE are, WE Know TRUTH, LIFE & NATURE are IMPORTANT, therefore TRUE JUSTICE is Important, ALL of US Living as Royalty & Vine Life 120+, Healthy, Happy & Holy, there is no need to fight for damned cruel obnoxious criminal empires, therefore no threat to oppose what no longer exists! LET THERE BE TRUE JUSTICE IN 2019!!!!!!!!!!
Brian Gerald what a load of garbage you wrote which has no merits besides highlight lack of education and stupidity by a Greek white small dick disguised as a black English man. Take note...You don’t have a black penis, besides itch to have one up your ass!
Does it not bother anybody that a Republic was formed that consisted of Certain Attributes and what is still Considered as the Recognised Republic no longer has these Attributes?
The most honest Greek to have ever lived in my opinion is a man named Loucas Charalambous , Read what he had to say, why does his opinion differ from the majority? what does he have/did he have to gain from his opinions? unfortunately most Greek Cypriots have been deceived , i hope they wake up from this deception before its too late! this deception has already caused enough death,destruction and turmoil. when will you embrace brotherhood? Do you even understand that the Greek Orthodox church would not even exist in Cyprus today if Turks had not taken the island in the first place? You would all be Catholics and this is fact look at Malta, they were originally Greeks and Arabs But today they have their own language which is a mix of Greek,Italian and Arabic but they are Catholics none of the Islands which are Orthodox would not have survived if it was not for Muslims and Ottomans.Do all of the research you want you can never prove this to be a lie!
+Lev Osman very interesting, thank you. You know, I used to live in Cyprus during my childhood. The thing which I really like about it, that for the last 10 or so years. There haven't been politically or ethnic based assassinations. You could speak any language you want in any part of the Island and not get into trouble. In 1990s and early 2000s it was not the case in Russia. Don't forget one thing, all of this sh#t happened during the Cold war.
+Marat Petrosyan By Loucas Charalambous
WHEN I was writing my comment about the events of 1963 which was published in this space on December 22, I was not aware that the previous evening there was a ceremony in Nicosia to honour the fighters of what is now called the 1963-1964 period. Worse still, I was not aware that ‘honorary’ certificates were handed out by the president of the Republic.
In my comment I had written that what happened in December 1963 was a paranoid act, unique in history as the head of state (Archbishop Makarios) formed a paramilitary organisation and used it to dissolve the state. That today another president of this state (what is left of it) came to reward that foolish political crime confirms what I had written on December 22, that 50 years later we are still guilty of the same naive thinking.
We have learnt nothing from our catastrophic foolhardy behaviour. In fact, President Anastasiades’ behaviour might be even more inappropriate than that of Makarios. At least he, when he was embarking on the misadventure of the ‘Akrita plan’, did not know the tragic consequences.
Today’s president though has the benefit of hindsight. He knows that all the disasters we have suffered since then were essentially consequences of the trouble started by Makarios back then, even if others gave a helping hand to our course towards catastrophe.
I have taken this opportunity to take another look at the Akritas plan. I really believe that you learn from history (at least those who want to learn), which is why I have always had time for documents relating to the 1963 events. Whoever has not read this notorious plan cannot claim to know the Cyprus problem.
Its content, written, according to the late Glafcos Clerides, by the late Tassos Papadopoulos, is arguably one of the stupidest political texts ever put together. It describes, with incredible naivety all the different stages through which the ‘new struggle’ could overturn the agreements establishing the Republic. Makarios and his associates, betraying their simplistic views, considered these an easy target.
They came to the point of deluding themselves – as is made evident in the plan –that it was possible, with their brinkmanship, to even secure the “unilateral right to amend the constitution”. Not only this – they also admitted to setting up an illegal military organisation.
Part of the plan was “the lawful countering by forces of the state or by friendly military forces every intervention from within or outside”. Yet in another part of the plan they showed they recognised the possibility of a Turkish intervention as a result of their machinations. Such an intervention was even described as justified.
Regarding this they wrote: “If an intervention is threatened or implemented before stage (c), (that is before they scrapped the Treaty of Guarantee), then this intervention would be legally possible if not justified as well.” In the end, the intervention from within split Cyprus in two while the outside intervention was not averted by Akritas’ friendly military forces but be US President Lyndon B Johnson who issued an ultimatum to Turkish PM Ismet Inonu.
This was, more or less, how – despite the desperate pleas of Greece which had implored him from April 1963 to stop playing these dangerous games – Makarios and his fighters got the ball of destruction rolling on 21 December 1963. A few weeks earlier, on December 3, they had also placed a bomb at the statue of the EOKA hero Markos Drakos and blamed it on the Turks so as to create the right climate for their misguided schemes.
That was the start of all our problems. Yet 50 years on, we are actually celebrating its anniversary, refusing to learn the lessons of history.
You Turks never learn and you always want the pie in total. The best thing Greeks can do is to keep in touch with the international law and have the best relation with the western big powers and leave the turks to barg as much they want. Eventually Greeks will be in a very good economical and lifestyle life and leave the turks starve cause they only want wars and irritate things!
I think your getting over excited for many reasons.
1. The North is not starving at all and will never starve. You really should visit the North and compare with the South first as obviously you have no idea.
2. You want Turkish army out but make no mention about the Greek army that created the mess and demonstrated human cleansing. Trust is a big thing. Once bitten second time shy.
3. You make mention about your allies and western law. What law are you talking about as it’s corrupt for financial gain. Mate your a bucket of water to the sea for them, so don’t get your hopes too high. They will chew you and spit you out.
4. Too get rich you need to work not wait for hand outs.
5. If you people were smart you would work with Turkey whom has kept peace on the Island for over 40 years rather than place your bets on the opposition. Advise the west to also provide you water which will be worth more then gold that they don’t have!
6. Are you happy with being in EU, Euro instead of pounds? How was that experience? Are you still experimenting and steering in all directions like you have with your above post. Not many people on the South happy mate as living standards have become unbearable so not sure who is starving?
7. By the way while everyone is in chase of gas and oil exploration no consideration of future consequences of the Island has been mentioned. Don’t find yourselves in time blowing bubbles under water due to gas and oil extraction emptiness as Europe is in urgent need for gas and hyped also why you can highlight false law to lean on. Either way not very bright for those that love the Island and genuine for unity and peace.
+EMPEROR RAMAZAN By Philippos Stylianou
I GAVE A lot of thought as to whether I should respond to my old Enosis colleague and dear friend Loucas Charalambous who, in a recent comment in the Sunday Mail, tried to justify the secret Turkish Cypriot designs in 1963 to break away from the newly founded Republic of Cyprus and set up a separate entity.
In the end – rather than continue harping on the deliberate myth of “bad Greeks-poor Turks” as Loucas Charalambous, of all people, is doing – I decided that setting the record straight about what happened back then is in the interest of permanent peace on the island. For no solution, however firm and elaborate it might be, can last if one of the parties feels that the other has wronged, cheated, compelled or humiliated it. I shall come back to this but first I want to refer to Charalambous’ analysis (sic) of the subversive Turkish Cypriot plan, dated September 14, 1963 and signed by the leaders of the Turkish Cypriot community, Fazil Kutchuk and Rauf Denktash, both high officials of the Republic of Cyprus at the time.
Charalambous asserts, without offering any proof, that this plan for the violent break-up of the Republic was meant to counter existing hostile Greek plans against the Turks and further maintains that everything the Turks did in Cyprus was a reaction to Greek Cypriot aggression. “When there is a quarrel, the responsibility belongs to the one who started it,” he writes.
The writer’s views and arguments have been savaged by many website commentators, who proved themselves better informed than Charalambous by showing things to be the other way around through the use of audiovisual documents. A much earlier though undated, Turkish Cypriot secret document found in the Turkish Cypriot Agriculture Minister Fazil Plumer’s office explicitly sets out the joint partitionist policy of the Turkish Cypriot leadership and Ankara, and there are sensational confessions by the perpetrators themselves. You see, when the Turks realised that they had pulled it off and there was no way for the Greeks to redress the situation, they began jointly and severally to speak out and claim historical laurels.
Rauf Denktash for one, the “secret” political leader of the TMT organisation, revealed in an interview that it was he who gave the order for a bomb to be planted at the Turkish Information Office in Nicosia as early as June 2, 1958, in order to blame it on the Greek Cypriots and start a pogrom against them under the protective indifference of the British colonial government. That was the beginning of the refugee problem in Cyprus, since hundreds of Greek Cypriot families were then expelled from their homes by the fanatical Turkish mob. Denktash also revealed that the blowing up of the Bairaktar and Omeriye mosques on March 25, 1962 was the work of his men and not that of the Greek Cypriots as had been thought for decades. Charalambous is forgetful of these incidents, although his memory does not fail him when it comes to an alleged Greek Cypriot provocation in December 1963. Indeed, he displays total amnesia about events that clearly prove who started it first in Cyprus.
Even the declaration of independence was stalled for some time because on October 18, 1959 the Turks were caught red-handed smuggling arms and ammunition to Cyprus on a naval craft converted into a fishing boat. The crew of three, sergeant-major Resat Yavus of the Turkish army and two staff of the Turkish Defence Ministry, were sentenced to one year imprisonment by the British who still ran Cyprus as a colony. The last act of the British governor Sir Hugh Foot before leaving the island was to expel all three, back to Turkey to continue their gun-running. They were not the only ones, of course. According to the Turkish daily Milliyet (June 11, 1995) between January 1959 and September 1960, enough arms had been smuggled into the island to equip 5,000 Turkish Cypriots.
In the face of these revelations, it looks historically safer to say that it was the Turks who started it first and not the Greek Cypriots who were reacting to Turkish acts and designs.
On a personal note, I was not here during the 1963-1964 events. In mid-1961, my father had a row with a Turkish Cypriot colleague of his, who made a throat-slitting gesture and told him: “The time is drawing nigh for you Christians!” My father told his family there was going to be trouble and at Easter 1962 we all went to London. We stayed for 11 years, returning in time for the Turkish invasion.
The military and political plan outlined in Plumer’s document did not only turn against the Greek Cypriots, but also against those Turkish Cypriots who might oppose them. For starters, it passed the death sentence on two outspoken critics of the Turkish Cypriot leadership, Aihan Hikmet and Ahmet Gurkan, editors of the local Cumhuriyet newspaper: “If they don’t believe in the existence of the national cause, they must be silenced,” decreed the Turkish Cypriot plan. And silenced they were with a hail of bullets on April 23, 1962 when they promised to publish the names of those who had been blowing up the mosques. The catalogue of opponents thus silenced is a long one and spans not only the early years of independence but subsequent ones up to recent times: Greek Cypriot Costas Misiaoulis and Turkish Cypriot Dervis Kavazoglou, fellow trade unionists, were shot dead in their car on April 11, 1965; Greek Cypriot Kurdish activist Theofilos Georgiades was assassinated on March 20, 1994 and Turkish Cypriot journalist Kudlu Adali on July 6, 1996, to name the most important ones.
One of the things that struck me on reading bloggers’ comments in the Cyprus Mail is how impermeable some Turkish Cypriots are to hard evidence about the darker side of their history. Yet they don’t lack reason or sensitivity. A few years ago they were shocked when a Turkish actor, Attila Olgac, described on television how during the 1974 invasion he shot Greek Cypriot POWs with their hands tied behind their backs. Likewise in 2009 when the film Guz Sancisi (Autumn Sorrow) about the pogrom against the Greeks of Constantinople in 1955 was screened, the audiences came out of the cinemas with tears in their eyes, saying they never thought their fathers could do things like that.
It is high time the Turkish Cypriots found the honesty and the courage to articulate audibly and solemnly their remorse and regret for the ills the expansionist policy of Turkey and the partitionist policy of their leaders have brought to this island. It is their turn to apologise to the Greek Cypriots if they really mean to live in peace with them. For if they choose to stick to the myth that they are the victims, it will only be an excuse for them to continue occupying our houses and properties. On account of the Greek Cypriots the Turkish Cypriots became free citizens in 1960 and European citizens in 2004. They are wrong if they believe they can now become a state by themselves. All they will have achieved if they persist in this course is to become perpetual usurpers.
Unfortunately, people like Loucas Charalambous are not helping them make the right decision.
I can not get arrested for talking bad about our president or politician .I have talked bad about Obama ,Both president Bushes ,and Hillary Clinton ,and even Henry Kissinger ,but no one has arrested me yet. See politicians can not arrest you over criticism or your comments towards them .No politician can escape the public's opinion or the public's scrutiny of there actions in our government . Can you say that concerning Erdogan and his party members in Turkey ?
See in America all cultures live together no problem ,but Turkeys reputation towards other cultures is a negative one. Turkish government uses propaganda in the media,government,religion to create ultra national fanatics .Turkey is invading Syria and Iraq ,Erdogan promotes a NEO Ottoman ambition and at the expense of other countries .This is what happened with the German people and Adolf Hitlers and his propaganda in World War 2 .Basically Adolf Hitlers propaganda about the German race being superior and the right to rule world and take from its neighboring countries through invasion . Here in America we all live together, because the laws protect people of different cultures, religion,color,sexual orientation (basically the minorities of our society). We have laws that protect t minorities and there rights, and they have many freedoms including religion and speech.
Did you also know that when coups were arranged in Turkey it had links each time to imperialism and western world to demolish Ottoman Empire and to suppress Turkey?
What a shame that Turkey recently released Spy, Priest Brunson with solid evidence of terrorism connection and pulling strings with Feto that was an agent of America and still is today. Feto is safe guarded by America whom resides in Pensilvania. The western world works like this with Israel's monetary support.
Americans with Technology, Israel with money and British master planner with intelligence to cause trouble. Wherever the British went trouble was caused.
Look at Saudi Arabia, they murdered Cemal Kaşıkçı in Saudi embassy which Turkey released tapes of full conversation taken place and murder swept under the carpet. A lot of conspiracies don't you think with Western world support.
Saudi Arabia has always financed terrorism and close ties with the British and American's. If you think Trump had no idea what was going to take place in Saudi embassy, guess again.
Provide me real evidence and stories not orchestrated for financial gain by western world to blame innocent people. Turkey fights terrorism everyday and has a population that is multi cultured in the areas you mentioned of bombings.
FACT the first inter communal fighting was an attack by Turkish Cypriots on 35 Greek Cypriot civilians murdering 8 Greek Cypriot civilians in the YEAR 1958 known as the Gunyeli Massacre. - For another interesting FACT you only need to go to the YEAR 1962 by googling - "Why The Turkish Military Bombed Mosques In Cyprus"- by Mustafa Aykol
justin googling thanks Justin. Hopefully there will be peace and unity, but you see even families are divided in their thoughts. How good would it be if everyone could get along as we are all here only for a short time as land will always stay behind.
justin googling I'm for democracy and unity. Cleansing began prior to Turkey's arrival on the Island towards Turkish Cypriots. When you talk about NATO, I'll tell you why I'm against it as it does not serve its members defence besides use them to defend their own. If it wasn't for the Cyprus issue, till today Turkey would be sleeping, unaware of being used and controlled within a system with useless military equipment controlled by America.
While America is using terrorism to divide Turkey in the back ground and all smiles promising Kurds they will have their own country, and have provided tones of thousands of arms at no cost to create conflict, Turkey on the other hand a member cannot purchase from its allies NATO and refused to be supplied to defend.
By the way Turkey has been fighting terrorism for over 40 years as America has always supported division and unsuccessful and will always be unsuccessful. Did you think Turks were sleeping?
Mate we are humble and very sincere, but not stupid!!
Let me also say that though America is backing PYG which is another branch of PKK rebel Kurdish/Armenian organisation. Twenty million Kurds that live in Turkey with normal day to day life are fully against these rebel's and highlight their not Kurdish and are a disgrace.
Turkey provides everything for civilisation and humanity not favouring between Turks or Kurds, and same for Greeks that also live in Turkey. This is democracy as they have recognised rights and opportunities. While rebel's are practising terrorism, Turkey will always suppress and destroy them for peace as America's goal is for Turkey not to reach 2023 placing hurdles to divide and create debt that 100 year expiry date is not reached to fall over to once again restrict rights and entitlements of resources and entitlement for revenue growth.
As for Eoka you must get your facts correct as I'll tell you a story which is also a fact. During the British period early sixties my uncle was working in the fields in our village. During this time British were patrolling for Eoka rebells due to the gorilla war. While my uncle was in the field he noticed the British soldiers and got scared naturally as a kid. When he began to run the British soldiers fired hitting him luckily in the back shoulder as he was running in a crunch position head down back forward. A lady from our village from behind screamed out, don't shoot his Turkish not Eoka. So buddy stop the stupidity as my family lived the fear and problem with first hand experience.
For compensation my Uncle when he reached his entry age was enlisted as a British police officer and served the British until late sixties before leaving Cyprus to Australia and leaving everything behind sick of the bullshit as his life was always in danger. When you sit with people like this you will understand who favours unity and those that don't that lived through the trouble times.
I'll tell you another thing both my uncles don't see eye to eye as one is fully for unity and has close ties with Akel which are good people and of same vision and sincerity, whereas the older uncle that was shot and served the British police is fully against unity. If you people think you have problems then guess again as it's not just property as we left all that behind and were extremely wealthy.
So you know that the facts are listed in sequence in Girne my friend. That's interesting. Thanks for backing my previous post. Your really are a truly a joker in disguise!
My uncle is on holidays is Cyprus currently. Send me your email address and when he gets back I'll take a photo of his front and back where the bullet entered and exited to provide you the evidence.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2014/01/12/how-was-it-possible-to-honour-the-fighters-of-63/# Here is an Article written by a Greek Cypriot who has read the Akritas plan and know the Truth of the events leading up to 1974 and it was printed in the Cyprus post! Every Greek that does not know the Truth or unwilling to believe it should read this! we need people like this writer in the Government of Cyprus for a proper resolution to take place
+Lev Osman 🤦.... Here you want evidence I'll show you.
All countries are in alphabetical order, here's an example of that:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z.
So that means Cyprus is in the C section in case you didn't know.
1974 DODGE MONACO 440 and there it is the typical liars response when they can’t provide proof to back up their statements , resort to personal attacks! Now you’ve really convinced me that you are honest and actually know what your talking about!
+Lev Osman No it's the truth I wrote. Buddy! Seriously get your head outta ur ass, put down your crack pipe and get into rehab. Either that or get back on your meds. You need to either get off the drugs or get on the drugs.
1974 DODGE MONACO 440 stupidest thing that you’ve ever written ! The UN would not even be in Cyprus if Enosis was never a thing , secondly Cyprus or any other place on earth cannot be a part of the UN ! Just merely a Member ! And the Membership that Cyprus has in the UN which you speak of includes The Turkish population of the island! Lastly Common sense is the term you used, in my travels I have heard people use this term loosely without knowing what it really means just like you did! Because people are commonly not sensible , case in point! Common senses are actually Seeing, Hearing, tasting , feeling and smelling! Common knowledge would have been a better phrase to use! However on this subject it couldn’t even be Common knowledge because your talking about a lie something that is non existant anywhere but in your own mind! If you could prove the truth in your statement you would have done so already!
Major facts overlooked was that Cyprus changed many hands over the thousands of years. Byzantine Empire (Greeks) were defeated by Venedicts (Italians) prior to Ottoman Empire ruling for over 400 years.
Another major fact overlooked the Island was a place where pirates of the seas used. I believe the artefacts in this video that Greeks highlight are also apart of this history. By all means visit North Cyprus as evidence is displayed for viewing including barbaric heritage of Greeks left behind in castles they used to tortured slaves of their own race, hiding from fear of being defeated.
Still today facts highlight that Cyprus is still a place for modern pirates and money laundering for illegal activities but yet we listen to nonsense of Greek ownership and rights, rather than the act of crime against Turks from early 50's to 1974 until Turkey stepped in to intervene and stop blood shed.
1974 DODGE MONACO 440 what are going on about name calling?
Mate I've had enough with reading your emails. You make no sense, your a mixed breed where your not even sure if your Greek or a Turk but continue with nonsense about defending Greeks. I hope that Northern Cyprus never units with with South Cyprus!!
I live in Australia , but I’ve been to Cyprus many times and Cypriot Turks are not slaves to Turkey they are a Burden on Turkeys economy but never the less while Turks suffer injustice Turkey thank God is there to help, when is comes to negotiation it’s the Greek government who always wrecks the negotiations not the Turks ! You say stuff just coz it sounds good in your head but you obviously know nothing about the topic from start to finish that’s actually factual! If you lived in America and after you’ve lived there for 400+ years the Government says from now on you are gonna have less rights than this other group of people now because your Greek and only make up 7% of the population, would you say duh um yeah ok that sounds fair? Coz that what you want Turks to do!!
+Lev Osman what the hell the huge turkish army is doing still on the island then? And don't tell me that they are still protecting the turks from the greeks cause that is just ridiculous. None wants war and i inform you that almost all greek cypriots want a peaceful unification. There is not going to be a unification as long as the Turkish army is settled on the island. Turkey is playing dirty on that. Turkish cypriots think that Turkey is supporting them but in fact they are victims of turkey. Turkey is the reason that the world does not recognise them and keep their economy closed in the borders of turkey and their's.
+Thanos apokapouallou Buddy thats not a genuine outlook since the Overwhelming Majority of Cypriot Turks Wants Turkey's Support, Think about it carefully if Turkey had moved the Army back out in 1976, Would there be a Turkish Cypriot Community on the Island? and if So would they have any say in how the country is Run as depicted in the constitional Rules which allowed the formation of the republic or would that depend on whether Turks were willing to agree to Makarios's 13 extra amendments?
justin googling you must be talking about the Greeks and confused them as Turks. Educate yourself not to make a fool of yourself. Read about Eoka and Enosis whom were killing each other due to conflict. Both are Greeks my friend. They also killed many British soldiers, before turning on Turks, that Turkey stepped in to stop blood shed due to intelligence of Dr. Faslı Küçük and Raif Denktaş, representatives and saviours.
+justin googling nice story told by you! wheres your footnotes to prove that you are talking about actual documented evidence? we can all just make up stories here tell us some real facts, why dont you tell us about the Akritas Plan?
THE MAJORITY OF GREEK CYPRIOTS NEVER WANTED ENOSIS THATS Y CIVIK WAR BROKE OUT IN CYORUS B4 THE TURKISH INVASION. THE WEST WANTED TO SECURE CYPRUS FIR FEAR IF THE RUSSIANS GETTING A FOITHOLD IN THE ISLAND. THE COUP OF MAKARIOS ALLOWED THE TURKS IN, FLOODED THE ISLAND WITH IMMIGRANTS FROM TURKEY AND ETHNUCAKKY CLEANSED GREEKS FROM THE NIRTH. THERE IS NO NORTHERN CYORUS AS THERE US NO SOUTHERN CYPRUS. CYPRUS US FIR GREEKS & TURKISH CYPRIOTS, EQUALKY, FAIRLY AND JUSTLY. SEEDSVIF HATRED STIRRED UP BY NATIONALIDTS ON BITH SIDES FOR THEIR OWN AND THE WESTS INTERSTS IN THE REGION. LET AKL CYPRIOTD UNITE AS ONE TO GOVERN AND RULE THEMSELVES. NO TURKEY, NO GREECE, NO BRITAIN. A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT UNITED FOR AND THE INTERESTS OF ALL CYPRIOTS WITHOUT OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE.
Chris Efthymiou initially I made nothing out of what you were writing due mistakes but then tried to read between the lines to make sense to understand. You do have a point but still missing a lot of detail, as well as making it seem as an influx of Turks came in with support of Greeks which is incorrect but prefer not go in detail as your intentions is to unit, which I agree as positive light should be the main focus!
Just touching on Makarios he was providing clearance for Turkish Cypriots to leave the Island as people were leaving to other Commonwealth countries such as England and Australia due to civil war and lack of employment due to civil war.
Another interesting fact when speaking to the odd Turk that worked in British military base they were advised too leave as war was going to break out so preplanned. People don't leave if they were apart of this plan nor provide clearances to leave the Island.
but the Constitution of the Republic was already destroyed the moment Makarios decided to insist that the Turks Agree to 13 Amendments of the Constitution in the First sitting of Parliament after signing the constitution that they all had agree'd on, this is where the problem started buddy ! click the link and read about it from a fellow Greek https://cyprus-mail.com/2014/01/12/how-was-it-possible-to-honour-the-fighters-of-63/#+justin googling
justin googling actually Greece was the Fırst to break the treaty in the 60’s but Turkey didn’t respond then they broke it again in the early 70’s and it was not until 1974 when Turkey exercised its right to intervention ! Besides all of that terrible shit that happened 50 years ago you and I were not involved so as inheritors of this problem are we gonna hate kill and mame ? Swear ,poke and prod? Or are we going to finally embrace humanity and figure out a way for a prosperous future of the island with both ethnicities. But by talking shit at each other and twisting narratives this shit will go on long after we are dead! Is that what you really want! Coz I can tell you When Greece got their independence it was not kind to anybody who was a loyal Ottoman , especially on Crete
3 powerful countries signed to respect and to guarantee the safety of Cyprus and its independence Britain Turkey and Greece all of them NATO countries but in 1974 all 3 took action to destroy its people wholescale and split up the country for NATO interests rather than restore Cyprus constitution as they agreed as guarantors, Greece can be forgiven as it was controlled by the military rule under the US backed Greek Junta.
umm firstly the gas is also in Turkish international borders so the gas is as much Turkeys as anyone elses in the region, secondly you keep claiming that you guys are the legitimate government but according to the 1960 treaty at least 30% of the members of parliament in your government are meant to be Turkish Cypriots, since your government is the government which was recognised by said treaty then your government is not operating in accordance with the treaty which gave it its birth
justin googling why did they walk out ? How could they have known that after signing the treaty to how the government should be formed that Makarios would try to renegotiate the terms in Parliament , however it was not negotiable the 12 new points that Makarios want Turks to agree to would have kept them poor and starved them out of the country! Turks didn’t Plan EOKA or EOKA b , Turks didn’t implant Makarios who’s idea it was to petition for self determination! Do you honestly believe that the island would be in the state that it is today if Makarios had not interfered with the treaty outlines? If that’s what you truly believe then you are very wrong and maybe you should look up the Akritas plan and read that and see what Makarios’s plan was right from the beginning!
Thats undemocratic 30 percent grab for an 18 percent population why were Turks so disrespectful, they knew very well it would lead to problems in parliament so they can walk out to separate and they did just that with no hesitation throughout the early 1960's causing violence.
+Lev Osman everybody gets their properties back Greeks and Turks, with the structures still standing or demolished, land is still valuable. They should have the option to take it back or sell it to the occupants for whatever it's currently worth. So the rightful owners aren't 100% at a loss.
+1974 DODGE MONACO 440 The only way to a peaceful resolution is to revert the Government back to the 1960 Agreement which everyone agree'd to and signed, without Makarios's 13 extra rules he tried to implement at the first parliament hearing after the treaty was signed, whether you think its unfair because of the population difference or not, thats what was agree'd to and signed, Turks have not broken these treaties. Especially after 1963-64 eventsTurks need the peace of mind of every bit of that treaty to be certain that the Greek Government wont try to do the same thing all over again, if this sounds unfair to you, how would you feel if it was Turks who ratted on the agreement that was signed in front of all three Guarantee nations and then tried to get you to accept 13 Rules that diminish your rights in how the country you live in is governed,taxed and administrated? im pretty sure you'd cry bloody Murder, but its not the Turks that did that it was Makarios,clerides and papadopous whatever that did it and they even have a Doctrine called the Akritas plan! every Turk had property too, my grandfather had an Orange Orchard in Polmithya, the house is there but the land has been subdivided and houses have been built on it, thats my inheritance ! how do i get that back? see what i mean nobody can have what was theres before ever again unless it remains unoccupied to this day! my Aunty had a Shop with a living quarters above facing the seashore in Larnaca, her property has been bull dozed and a new building has been constructed in its place, what happens to her? everybody needs to forget what they had before its all gone it cannot be replaced without starting another conflict all over again. we need to start with the most important thing first which is to restore the Republic in Accordance to the 1960 agreement and once that is done we can then start talking about remunerations and all that stuff !
+Lev Osman try to understand this. Greeks Cypriots are entitled to the properties they lost in the north because they paid for it. Everybody is entitled to what they paid for. So that means this 44 year Mexican standoff has to end. Yes the Turkish military needs to make a full withdrawal out of Cyprus. It's not in their place to be there. There's nothing peaceful with an army from another country holding civilians at gunpoint to protect a certain minority I the same territory. Don't expect the withdrawal to be peaceful at first. But in time it'll progress. I've seen the younger generations from both sides protesting side by side for a reunified Cyprus. So yeah not at first, but in time I do expect them to start hugging. Maybe not in this generation but maybe in the next.
Turks in Cyprus have lived at least 300 years in peace with Greek people. They where the leading people and did allow Greek people for 300 years to:
- stay al live. ..did not Kıll all Greek while They could repeat this at least 300 x
- did allow Greek people to keep their own Believe...
- Did allow Greek people to keep and have New properties.
- Afther Turks came the taxes wend down...
- Turks did allow Greek people to have their own Justice system and their own Church.
- Turks even did allow Greek school Greek education and Greek teachers teaching Greek believe history and language.
Guess what happend the day Greek people thought They are powerful enough. ...
They tried to kill all Turks... by the fırst possible moment They had.
Next question. ... what would happen if Turks would act like Greek people...
Even today Greek people would not have the power to fight Türks. .. even with Greek European,Israël and Usa support ...
+M.Kemal ATATÜRK no thanks ATATÜRD I've seen Midnight Express. It was enough to tell how much of a shit hole Turkey is. I'd rather get shot at in Compton Los Angeles then listen to your people speak with their mouths full of shit.
Armando 7 prove it by documented historic facts , heresay is not a fact ! Show us how Enosis means your were planning on giving Turkish people Lollies and sweets! Show us how the Akritas plan was going to benefit all of the Islands communities! Show us how the historians on the topic just made up all the stories of EOKA Fascism
+Lev Osman Your so called comments are stupid . Cyprus was ethnically Eteocypriot from 10000 BC to 1100 BC when they were Hellenized ever since the Cypriots are Greeks . Also Greeks are 17 million worldwide and Turks 83 million worldwide just simple search . The island belongs to true Cypriots , you can find ancient scriptures in Greek in Cyprus , can you read them ? If no you are obviously an invader .
+Pampos PampouGreece cant afford to take you in Enosis actually you guys will go broke all over again if you try Enosis again, but to your dismay the Island will never be solely Greek and if Greeks try to exterminate Turks again they will not stop at 1/3 of the Island next time, what can Greece do to stop Turkey? 8 million population vs 83 million goes to show ya how many Greeks actually left Turkey during the population swap most of the Greeks stayed and call themselves Turks today. I hate people like you who make stupid Racist comments there are so many Greek Cypriots that are totally opposed to everything that you say, thats because they are the smart 1's who also have a sense of humanity left, i have heaps of Greek friends we never argue about the past, we dream about a future together for us and our children, but you come on here and talk hate and ownership, tell me when was the last time prior to 1960 that Greek Cypriots actually were the world recognised legal owners of the Island and dont say Byzantine because 1 they couldnt hold it for very long and 2 that was the Eastern Roman Empire, not the Greek Empire, look at the history books, you people last owned Cyprus legally more than 2000 years ago, Technically the island has belonged to England more times than it has belonged to Cyprus, because king Richard the Lionheart owned it twice! and now you try to say Turks have no ownership rights after living there for 440+ years!!! wake up from your dream so the world can be free of this nightmare!!!
+Pampos Pampou just coz the republic was founded then your Greek politicians along with you fascist Archbishop President decided to re-negotiate after signing a treaty does not give Greeks sole ownership of the Island, the World only recognises the Republic which was formed by the 1960 agreement that governtment had the deputy primeminister as a Turk and 3 Turkish cabinet members with the right to Veto, only the first sitting of Parliament Makarios demanded that the Turkish members agree to 13 unjust revisions to the Agreement, And the Turks Refused and walked out! until the Island reaches fair negotiations and re-unification Greeks may be the only Nationality in the Parliament but dont ever forget that the republic is only truly recognised by the 1960 agreement which includes Turks! so either stop trying to brainwash people with the lies you are taught in your schools or pick up some unbiased books on the topic and awken your mind to the truth which has been hidden from you for almost 50 years!
It's not a country!All of you guys don't know how it is to live in a country that you have to show an ID to go to your village that you have to leave it and now at your house with all your memories lives someone else just because "that's what he likes" DON'T TALK IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
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Cyprus is not Turkish or Greek.The population of Cyorus before 1974 was 78% greek 4%Arminia and Maronite and 18% turkish.The firrst people colonize Cyprus were the Myceneans from Peloponeese from Greece..There is in north of Cyprus the ruins called Soloi.Also Salamis built by Greeks in 800 BC.The Turkish Cypriots are have the same D NA as the greek Cypriots.Not any Turke blood .Instead teaching some of you do you shoul show love not hate.No nation is better than others as we all imperfect and we all get sick and we all die.Stop hateing the Greek people.without the Greek language the Europeans languages own a lot to the greek language.STOP Hating.
the Myceneans were the first to colonise but there were already hitites there from the Levant and there is artifacts in the museum on the Greek side that proves it. Cyprus was conquered by Greeks way back then just like Turks conquered it in the late 1500's only difference is the Greeks killed all the inhabitants back then and the Turks saved the Greeks and the Orthodox church from the Tyranny of the Venetians, under the Venetians the orthodox religion was banned the churches all fell into disrepair and some were even raized to the ground, the Sultan provided gold to repair the Churches and even eventually named the Greek Archbishop the caretaker of all the peoples of Cyprus both Turk and Greek.
+MM H here arshole Attaturk was a fucking gay boy so don't start that go back up you arse and never come out again because you talk a lot of shit same as your leader in Turkey another idiot ....go begging like him to get your toilet paper currency sorted out and your shit economy that gone down the toilet ..before you start mooning like a little girl ..
+Chris Challouma No i live in Germany, Erdogan tells me nothing. This small country called greece, has so much debts that the whole european union and usa cant even pay for them. You fucked a whole continent with your economy, that they couldnt even find a solution. Not even the most retarded investor would put 1 cent into this bankrupt and corrupt country. Every year over 4.000 greeks go to turkey to work there.
+abdullah99Islam who told you that the Turkish economy is better then Cyprus and Greece ?,?? Don't tell me .....let me think..............ooooo yes Erdogan and his son in law .....what a bloody joke ......the world finance houses don't say anything like that ...
So mate your leader is a con man so it's his son in law. ....how can a leader have his son in law as a finance minister .....come on you lot in Turkey can you see through these people for God's sake .....
Chris Challouma ???....im stating that alot of Turkish history has been altered to brain wash the Turkish public...to make them believe that the crimes their country commits against others is"ok"...because it makes it more Turkified....see the reports of the Turkish journalist Uzay Bulut..she absolutely criminalizes Turkey ref 1974 invasion and all the crimes committed against Cyprus...Turkey is a thuggish nation built on the murder and suffering of others...
olskoolbandito the thing is you don't know real history because in Turkey it'd all fake history mate you have no history it's all about slaughter as the whole world knows ....mind you you are so ignorant I don't think you wll never understand real history ....go back in pig hole ....
AbduIlah99islam don't know why you belly ache this was never a Muslim country mate until cancerous ottomans forced them selves there and forced/ slaughtered Christians to become Muslims ...like you did in many countries like Persia so don't belly ache MACEDONIA IS GREEK ,,,A GREEK WORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not MUSLIM...SO WHY ARE YOU MOANING
+abdullah99Islam idiot it's not REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA GET IT IN YOUR THICK HEAD this country was never ever Muslim untill canceroue Ottomans forced people to become Muslim i don't know why you belly ache and stop repeating your self ...
Noobs ? Let me tell death counts of both side : 510 Turkish Troops died (with civilians 1523 and turks didn't kill civilians not like fucking greeks) , 3000 dead and 1400 missing greeks. You don't even know how to fight you noobs.
Greeks accuse Turkish Cypriots for no actual reason and they always blackmail. Well they should take a look back what they did because they keep forgetting the word ENOSIS which is an anti Turkish terror organisation which was founded by the evil minded makarios which in his point of view He’s goal was to remove every Turkish Cypriot from the island and torture them to their deaths. They where responsible of committing holocausts and ethnic cleansing the island against Turkish Cypriot population. I give my condolences go to the families of the soldiers and Rauf Denktash who lost their lives and their loved ones and who thought to protect Cyprus and its people. it’s so sad to see these people suffer to this present day. Mass graves have been dug for the Turkish Cypriot Martyrs who tried to protect CYRPUS from the ILLEGAL ENOSIS political movement.
RIP AND LETS HOPE FOR PEACE IN CYPRUS. 🤞
BJFJFJFJN EIRJFNRF another fake name like the stories you have here..YOU FORGOT ONE THING >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOW ABOUT ALL THE CYPRIOTS THAT WERE SLAUGHTERED BY THE TURKS FROM TURKEY ????????????????????? and still TURKEY IS REFUSING TO SAY WHERE THEY WERE BURIED?????????????????????????/
"Northen Cyprus" will never be a country. Will remain recognized only by Turks(monkeys) you will never join EU, NATO or Olympic games because is only Cyprus. You will die there without having a real identity. Sorry, you have identity, Tarzan's region.
Djfjfjfjfn Eirjfnrnf Petros knows exactly what his talking about you are the childish person....tell me... DO YOU HAVE PASSPORTS THAT SAYS TNRC?????? DO YOU HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ????????????????????? Assuming you know what that means....DO YOU HAVE A TURKISH CYPRIOT CURRENCY????? I know the answer to all of them....ITS ONE BIG NOOOOOOOOOOOO so little Turkish boy the only person that doesn't know what they are talking about ITS YOU...how can you call you selves a Republic ??? just to let you know that all your so called Government Officers that are Cypriot THEY HAVE A CYPRIOT PASSPORT SO THAT THEY CAN FLY FREELEY IN EUROPE ....and the rest of the world thicko and if you are of Cypriot origin NOT A TURK FROM TURKEY <<<<<THEY DONT BELONG THERE you can have a legal CYPRIOT PASSPORT THAT THE WHOLE WORLD RECOGNISE i bet you have one as well ....so don't talk SHIT by the way THE IQ....I don't think you know what that means because when you do the test you don't get a minus idiot ...it shows your ignorance..... so Mr clever boy and Mr know it all you know nothing ......BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWERS
Djfjfjfjfn Eirjfnrnf FACT ONLY TURKEY REGOGNISE THAT PART OF THE ISLAND AND I BELIEVE PAKISTAN....YOU DONT HAVE PASSPORTS YOU DONT HAVE YOUR OWN CURRENCY YOU DONT HAVE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HOW CAN YOU CALL THAT A COUNTRY YOU CANT TRADE WITH ANYONE IN THE WORLD .......ALL THE POLITICIANS HAVE A CYPRIOT PASSPORT ALL CYPRIOTS HHAVE A CYPRIOT PASSPORT SO STOP TALKING SHIT YOU HAVE -1000000000 I Q MATE lets have the real facts not fake ones
The only reason why turkey interceped in 1974 was to help the turkish cypriots being murdered my eoka. Men, women, children and babies being killed so the greeks could "cleanse cyprus" by removing turks and muslims. Genocide and mass murder committed by eoka. Turkey was right to intervene as turk cypriots were outmanned and outgunned. I hope that we turk cypriots can live with the greek cypriots harmoniously from now on as there will never be a cyprus war again.
+1974 DODGE MONACO 440 i have been to the mass graves where men women, children and babies were killed by the greeks so i know that turkey had to intercept to help the turkish cypriots, you say. You must be a thick motherfucker though because in 1 sentence you said that I claimed that eoka did that bullshit and then you say in another sentence that eoka did what they had to do because they wanted to be independent, so make up your mind dumbass either i claim it or its the truth that eoka wanted to get rid of the turkish cypriots. Greek cypriots thought they would bully the turks into giving up cyprus but it back fired motherfucker the north is the better side and always will be.
🚫 Nope Turkey had no right to invade. You and Turkey may call it an intervention but everyone else calls it an invasion. You say E.O.K.A. is bad, then who the hell are you to defend the Turkish military? When they did the exact same disgusting shit as E.O.K.A. did as you claim. It wasn't just Turks getting killed it was British soldiers too, during the British rule. E.O.K.A did what they did because they wanted to be independent. Turks were getting killed because they stood by the British thinking they were above us. Turkish Cypriots getting killed wasn't Turkey's problem. That the fact they invaded to protect the Turkish Cypriots alone for being Turkish alone is racist. You call genocide on E.O.K.A. for doing what they did, and yet what Turks did to Greeks in the past going back to the ottoman years wasn't genocide? Cyprus has 800,000 Greek Cypriots, and 300,000 Turks... It's not even worth qualifying it as half Turkish if they're not even half of the population. It's a bullshit excuse in attampt to make the Turkish population grow. Not in my back yard motherfucker.
Hazardyx CHECK YOU DNA MATE THE CHANCES ARE YOU MORE GREEK IN YOU THAN ANY ONE IN EUROPE REMEMBER GREEKS WERE HERE THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE TURKS WE HAVE HISTORY GOING BACK OF OVER 3000 years Turkey and Cyprus have Monuments all over the place if you don't know that you don't know real history... WHERE ARE THE TURKISH MONUMENTS going back thousands of years????
What about the bastards who raped Izmir women? equally as disgusting as the Armenian genocide. I hope one day greeks and turks will live in peace and as brothers, but not with people like you. You can't keep justifying one country over the other when they have done atrocious things aswell.
phil the finadelphian GET YOU FACTS RIGHT MATE THE GREEKS WERE IN Asia minor NOW TURKEY 3000 years ago so I don't know where you read history (must be Turkish fake history ) so don't talk shit ...you are one uneducated idiot spreading around load of shit soooooo if you don't know just go back in your cave where you belong idiot...
JEJDJEJD......WHAT EVER YOU CALL YOUR SELF HIDING BEHIND LETTERS TOOOOOOO AFFRAID NO DOUBT......AS YOU ARE SO CLEVER SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT GREEKS ARE MURDERERS IF THEY ARE THEY WILL NEVER BE AS BAD AS THE CANCEROUS OTTOMANS slaughtering 3 million Christians .....so don't talk shit
+EMPEROR RAMAZAN yes it is but no one recognise it as a country AND FOR YOUR information IF the want passports and ids the go to THE CYPRUS GOVERNMENT. .NOT A MADE UP TURKISH ONE .....HOW ABOUT OWN CURRENCY? ??? THEY DON'T HAVE ONE ...HOW ABOUT TRADE ???? THEY CAN'T TRADE WITH THE WORLD ...HOW ABOUT AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. ....THEY DON'T HAVE ONE .....SO MATE TAKE A RUNNING JUMP.....
+London Power greeks sayed like that for istanbul. And ım saying to them look at the map. National borders and other stuff is change mostly times. For every country every nations. You now what nations did live in anatolia? Lot lot of nations. Lydians, hittite, urartians, byzantines, turks. And one day a lydian came up and say hey this land is belomg to me!Does it make sense? What about usa? Native americans? Now people who living there is a turtist or invaders right? Man get over it now. Ottoman turks take cyprus in 1571. İn 1878 england take the island control. And in 1960 greeks take the half of it. Thats mean you cant say this land belongs to them this land belongs to this. Man ı hope you can understend me. By the way my englsh is not good ı know
Cyprus is for the Cypriots. Greek and Turkish alike. Get grew e and Turkey out of Cyprus and let the nation become one, thru mutual respect and trust for each other. Everything was fine till the top dogs started sticking their moses in for their own interests. The island of love became the island of hate thru divide and rule and aspirations of nationalism to their ancestral homelands. A beautiful island turned into a battleground of blood for the interest of the powers to be.
You talk finish .The Ottomans went to Cyprus 1580.The Greeks went there much earlier .who built Salamis or The Soloist near Morphou.As for you Turkish Cypriots you don't have any Turkish blood you got more greek Livanees Italia cuacasus .The same as greek Cypriots.CYPRUS BELONG To all Cypriots.Does not belong to Greece or Turkey.
😳 Dude are you fucking serious, (becaus)? It's because!! Learn how to fucking spell, the two main languages English and Greek!! Then again what do I expect from someone who thinks dinosaurs existed 3000 years ago.
BugraXX where the he'll did you get 1000 years of Ottoman ......One thing you all Forget Turkey was Asia Minor and it was Greek over 2000 years ago so don't talk shit READ REAL HISTORY NOT A FAKE TURKISH ONE
Lev Osman.....you have no idea at all behind all the problems mate was UK AND USA if you are a Cypriot you will know that assuming you know the facts if you are a Cypriot talk to you dad and granddad they will know better..behind load of problems you have the big powers ...............
What difference does it make if its recognised or not we have thousands of people holidaying there, greeks, turks, english and many more. Do you want to incite hate and go to war just like those in 1974. Cyprus should never have been allowed into the eu until there was a resolution in cyprus.
You should be hoping for a positive outcome and not a negative one. Times have changed
Peter K if he had decided on a more fair future for the Island which included the Turkish Cypriots there would not be a mess like this, my grandparents all spoke Greek aswell as Turkish and they had many Greek friends as do I here in Australia, but after sharing the Island for over 400 years and then to try to deny them a future or a say in an Island which they’re ancestors liberated from Venetian Warlords and gave the Greek masses their respectability back , the freedom to practice they’re religion back and even the funds to rebuild the neglected churches because of the Venetians is not only unfair it’s downright unneighborly ! If Makarios never harassed the Greek government to send an Army to the Island the Killing would not have begun in the first place, Turkey would not have had a reason to intervene in 1974 and the peoples of Cyprus would today still live together in a mixed society as close friends and neighbors with respect for each other
northern cyprus hahahah
northern cyprus is part of the republic of cyprus
love cyprus from georgia(country)
and i have 1 question why u greeks and turks ar fighting for this island ha????
on this island there is a republik of cyprus there is nor greek teritory or turkish teritory leave this country alone
love from georgia(country)
Pampos Pampou not true, as Ottoman Empire was after the Italians which time line is in sequence in castle museum in Girne. I took photos of all empires listed some 180 years, others around 200 or so years, Ottoman Empire over 440years. Prior to 4 or five rulers, Greek empire did rule for 2500 years this is history and should be corrected regardless of who’s on first base, and what’s on second. These are the facts. Some of the rulers listed don’t even exist to my recollection which took my attention of the history of the Island.
რეზი თოდუა as a Turkish with partly Georgian descent, I strictly support the free, independent republics of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. I have Georgian dual citizenship and went to Tbilisi and Batumi and I didn't like there at all !!! Russia must enter all of Georgia too...
I tried fucking your Turkish women to spite your families but their pussies stink so I realised I was only spiting myself ! When you can even get into Europe because they don’t want 2million smelly cunts in uk then get back to me and everyone else about greeks n gays! Your the worst breed going !
Turkish Cypriots are minorities compaired to Greek Cypriots. So it can't be Turkish if they make barley a quarter of the population. Greek is the majority in Cyprus like it or hate it. So get use to dealing with Greeks speaking individuals in Cyprus. The Northern Republic is not a real country, it's an unrecognized region that's practically still a warzone thanks to the Turkish military. Cypriot land forever for only the Cypriot people. Building walls isn't going to solve anything, acceptance will. Accept Greeks for their differences and move on. Make Love not war.
George Hiotis r u dumb? he sent u a link with a wiki page explaining the facts of what led to the division of Cyprus in 1974, and if u say "oh but anyone can edit wikipedia" check the damn reference list at the bottom. when will greeks actually research up the facts of their own history rather then believing the bs propoganda their lying older generation tell them
No recognition for Turks as they expected.They seized most fertile part of island and now lives off handouts from Turkey.100 per cent of all industry seized and no =one expertise to run them Not even Turkic republic recognize this other Palestine
Also they want to steal our money our natural gas and our oil!!! Tell turkey to stop all of these conquests or they’ll never join Europe, not that they are Europeans anyway. First of all they don’t look Europeans, their customs and tradition is not European and they are Muslims. They’re also a counttry with low GNP and they have a really corrupt government. Europe only accepts rich countries
Well, technically there are "American Citizens" if they live in America but, If A Greek for example goes to live in America when he grows up, he will be an American Citizen but not American in ethinicity, that's what I mean. Kurds in Iraq are Kurdish Citizens since they have their own government and they are kind of autonomous.
Look if you 're not going to debate sensibly, we better call this off. What is a Citizen? What passport do the Kurds in Turkey hold? I am not interested in Kurds live in Iraq or Syria they are the citizens of Iraq and Syria. What is so difficult for you to understand the word Citizen. I give you another example. You have millions of Latinos and Blacks and many different ethnicities living in America. Q. Are they Americans? Of course they are.. Your ethnicity does not come in to it If you live in Turkey and hold a Turkish Passport you are a Turkish citizen simple as that.
Cemukay, not everyone is a "Greek citizen" or "Turkish citizen", the Kurds are not Turkish citizens, they are just citizens who live in Turkey. The population in Western Thrace is 371,208
thousand, and the Turkish population there is 50-100 thousand, still not everyone who is Muslim is Turkish. The other 100,000 thousand is Greek Muslims and the other 150,000 thousand is Christian Greeks.
95% of the Northern Cyprus population is not even original Turkish Cypriot but descendants of Turks sent to Cyprus by the government turkey before and after 1974 . They are not Turkish CYPRIOTS but just Turks, so they don’t belong in our country.
***If you don’t believe me even Wikipedia says so in the Cyprus demographics page
George Evangel your statistics seem to be very unnatural , but if what you say is true then this proves that the Greek government commit severe atrocities and genocide on the Turkish population, in 1963 the total population of the Island was 582,000 and the Turkish population was 18% which means that there was somewhere around 115,00 Turkish Cypriots, now the population of the North is estimated at 330,000 , and the south has 851000, so if only 5% is actually Turkish Cypriot 15500, now considering this and population growth and what not then the Greek Government is either telling fibs or they executed somewhere around 80,000 people , considering the claims that around 4000 people are still missing from between 1964 -1974, your claims of 95% don’t add up or they implicate the Greeks in a huge Genocide and cover up!
Which one do you prefer?
I can’t stand people who make outright lies on public foru
As you can see by the Greek comments on here the sentiment in which they have for Turks proves that the Turkish population would never have been safe under ENOSIS and will never be safe without their own safe haven!
Greece also declared ENOSIS on CRETE which resulted in a mass extermination of Turkish civilians who had lived there for over 400 years aswell, and the same on Rhodes, why would anybody think that Cyprus would be any different?
Nonsense there are many ethnic Turks still there in Crete .I wish you Turks could stop telling lies
Its you people that have given the world Genocides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide and today the Kurds
here's a few facts!
1, Turks have lived on Cyprus for over 400 years, as the Ottomans conquered the Island from Venetian Warlords and free'd The Greeks from religious persecution and serfdom.
2.Greeks have not owned or held government in Cyprus for over 2000 years until the Ottomans appointed the Greek Archbishop to be the caretaker of the people of Cyprus both Greek and Turkish.
3. Greeks are not the true Natives of the island because Archealogical evidence found in Cyprus proves the Natives of Cyprus originate from the Levant, So to declare the island only as Greek is a total lie.
4. Over 14 different nations not including the Ottomans and Great Britain have owned the Island since the last it was actually owned by Greeks
5. After 3 attempts of convinceing Greece to petition the U.N for the right to self determination Makarios finally was successful on August 20 1955, this was the plan to set into motion Makarios's true plan which was Enosis union with Greece, the petition was denied and Makarios's Militia called EOKA began to Revolt against the Brittish who were the rulers of the island at the time.
6.EOKA and EOKA B was and is a Fascist radical fanatic religious group was began to slaughter Brittish then Turks and even Greeks who refused to Support them.
7. Violence ,systematic killing of Turkish citizens began in and around 1958-1974
8. 3 treaties were proposed for the peace of the island, however Makarios and his brainwashed followers were not content with the idea of having to share parliament or the island with Turkish people who had lived there for some 400 years by this time, so they planned a coup , broke all the Treaties , brought in the Greek army from Greece, and began terrorist activities , mainly directed at the Brittish first , but soon they began Emptying Turkish Villages and killing innocent Civilians on a large scale!
9. In 1974 under the Treaty of Guarantee rule, Article 4, Turkey as one of the Guarantors of Cyprus, expressed its right to Military intervention to save the lives of the Turkish population as well as the Greeks who were not EOKA sympathizers!
These are all hard facts but the Cyprus problem is clouded by many elaborate lies all to Try to convince the World that the Island belongs to Only Greeks Although they have never held a fully outright Greek government or even owned the land for well over 2000 years!
10. Greek Cyprus was allowed temporary membership in the EU pending The Greek promise to vote yes to a proposed Referendum where the Turks would have to give up 15% of the land that they occupy ! when polling day came The majority of Turks voted yes , however although the Greeks promised a yes vote the Majority of Greeks voted No, and the reason for this is that they cannot accept the terms of the treaties they signed one of which is the president shall always be a Greek and the Treasurer will always be a Turk and the treasurer can select 3 Turkish members to bring into his cabinet!
11. The only was to move forward from here is for both sides to accept Multiculturalism , then reparations will be easier to accept
Why do you leave out the Byzantine Greeks that ruled Cyprus for 8 centuries?
Another lying Turk.The Sultan gave Greek Orthodox Prelate authority to rule the island and collect taxes All the Turks ever wanted was money, they ceded the Island to Britain for protection against the Russians 1878.They stabbebbed Russia in the back during ww1 by declaring their neutrality then bombing their ports.Britain and Turkey were on opposite sides during that war and seized the island outright.Attaturk signed treaty of Lausanne where Turkey gave up all claim to Cyprus.Another treaty the Turks don't honor
Lev Osman, I see you learned a great propaganda but never heard about what you did in Smyrna, you killed thousands of people, the Turkish Soldiers, murdered and killed innocent civillians and threw them in to the sea, and you celebrate the crime you did.
The Pontian Genocide which Kemal ordered his troops to murder about a half of the Pontic Greeks which lived in the area, such a big crime.
The Turkish invasion of Cyprus which you abused and killed Greek Cypriots, killed kids which were about 12-14 years old, abusing and killing kids, adults and even elders during the invasion and after the war, the Greek Cypriots were left homeless with broken famillies, shame.
And still, in Afrin, Turkish soldiers abused Kurdish women's bones which they killed.
They even abused other Kurdish children and her sisters when they captured Afrin.
Turks destroyed hospitals, their homes and many Kurdish were left homeless, barbarians.
You're telling that if we united the island it would have been worse, worse than murdering, abusing and ruining the island's beauty? If we are the aggressors then why didn't we kill Turkish Cypriots after you murdered them? We could have do it as revenge but as Greeks, we know that taking lifes is a big crime, even for our biggest enemy. And if we did, it was our Governments fault. If you have something similar like nazism, it's possible.
another propaganda lie distorted by Turkey Byzantine Greeks ruled Cyprus for 8 centuries Annan plan was put to a vote Turks don't understand Greeks had right to study the plan and vote against it this is something the barbarian turkish mind cannot understand about us greeks
there is no such thing as a t/c anymore.the north has become turkish.strange the in the old days the g/cs where accused of wanting enosis and it looks like the t/cs will do it.so all in all its turkey is in the north,t/cs are going to join the dodo birds and become extinct.
i got the figures from a t/c who worked in my fathers restaurant in london while he was studying.we are still very good friends and he now has a good position in the north and we meet. 190,000 voted in the last election in the north.these are from your sources.that means you have around 250,000-300,000,settlers.you dont have to be a genius to work that out.why should i talk about the akritas plan?that was in the past and i think mistakes were done by both,unless you feel you were angels.i am not an agitator but i cant change that if you feel like that.the t/cs i get to meet and i meet many,all say the same.the dont want the settlers and they dont want the army.as i said most of the younger ones have gone to other countries.they dont run their area in the north anymore.it is run by turkey.you are extinct and this time it is not the fault of the g/cs.
johnny wires and where’s your research from I am a TC and I was in Cyprus last in 2004 and back then the TC population by our polls were 160,000 and mainland Turks or Turks born elsewhere were less than 25000, however since then the laws changed allowing people to cross between Cyprus and Turkey without a passport just like the EU, but still your numbers are made up or from a terrible source, seems to me that you agitator type people seem to know all the facts about the TC’s ( make them up) but you still won’t openly talk about Akritas plan!!!!
t/c population was around 80,000.most have gone after getting their roc passports.at the last vote in northern cyprus,190,000 voted.that leaves around 130,000 that voted that are not t/cs.which means the population in the north of not t/cs is around 300,000. next time you comment,settler,do your research..
What a stupid misinformed comment , TC’s have a Government and a huge percentage of the population are TC’s and while they’re are some mainlanders on the Island they are not permanent residents unless they have married into a TC family, Don’t make up bullshit stories just to hide all your lies and deceits!
Even Cyprus’s entry into the EU was given by false promises, you lied to get in and now your in good luck in ten years when the EU collapses
In general, it is funny how Turkey criticize and "fight" Israel for his policies against the Palestinians. She accuses the Israelis that they don't respect the UN resolutions about Jerusalem and that they bring shelters to Palestinian lands.
While Turkey didn't respect none UN resolution which calls her to withdraw her Army from the island, and she brought so many Turkish shelters from Anatolia that the Turk Cypriots are again a minority inside their "State"..
In general, in Cyprus, there are 2 Realities. The Turkish Reality (in Cyprus there are 2 states) and the International/UN Reality (Cyprus is one state which a part occupied by Turkey). So how can you discuss with someone who refuses the Reality and created his own???
Turkey was a Guarantor Power for Cyprus but she violated her role. She had the obligation to protect the island and the population but she used her Power to divide the island and turn the Nothern part to her own military base and declared a banana- republic. She pushed 200.000 innocent Cypriots to become refugees and stole their properties in cold blood. So what kind of Guarantor is that?????
cyprus was never a part of greek nation , greece exists since 1821 , this is not your land it never was , you are not romans but orthodox greeks this is something new , all "greek" Christian people on cyprus came with ottoman empire
ΔΑΙΔΑΛΟΣ / Daedalus the kind where turkish want to protect turkish cypriots. If turkey didnt do anything,the turkish cypriots will either exile or die on their own land. Greek n turkish cypriots are still divided mentally due to their race, they still havent figure out how to unite as one cypriots
True fact:Most of the "citizens" of this banana-republic nowadays are settlers from Turkey who were transferred to the island. The two "communities" within Northern Cyprus do not get well together as the turkish Cypriots are the vast minority in northern Cyprus and the turkish settlers is the majority.
We are a republic and we are part of the European Union who ever wishes to come and stay they need to be accepted first and that counts Greeks as well so your point is invalid. Second he is right there are more Turks than Turkish Cypriots. The Turks couldn't care less about the T/C
This is the Illegally occupied part of Cyprus.
The Turkish army violently forced a third of the island's Greek population from their homes in the occupied North, preventing their return and settling dirty turks from the mainland, ethnic cleansing.
Also, as a result of the invasion, over 2000 Greek-Cypriot prisoners of war were taken to Turkey and detained in Turkish prisons. Some of them were not released and are still missing
Since 1974, at least 55 churches have been converted into mosques and another 50 churches and monasteries have been converted into stables, stores, hostels, or museums, or have been demolished.
In general, it is funny how Turkey criticize and "fight" Israel for his policies against the Palestinians. She accuses the Israelis that they don't respect the UN resolutions about Jerusalem and that they bring shelters to Palestinian lands.
While Turkey didn't respect none UN resolution which calls her to withdraw her Army from the island, and she brought so many Turkish shelters from Anatolia that the Turk Cypriots are again a minority inside their "State"..
In general, in Cyprus, there are 2 Realities. The Turkish Reality (in Cyprus there are 2 states) and the International/UN Reality (Cyprus is one state which a part occupied by Turkey). So how can you discuss with someone who refuses the Reality and created his own???
Turkey was a Guarantor Power for Cyprus but she violated her role. She had the obligation to protect the island and the population but she used her Power to divide the island and turn the Nothern part to her own military base and declared a banana- republic. She pushed 200.000 innocent Cypriots to become refugees and stole their properties in cold blood.
this is our Land , it always was , fuck off you jewish "greeks" you have created this greekness out of thin air to have an excuse occupying other peoples homeland , CYPRUS BELONGS TO TURKEY NOT JUST THE NORTH.
ΔΑΙΔΑΛΟΣ / Daedalus but why the greeks want to join Greece though, the country is a failure, i say the cyprus needs to unite and form an independent country, you dont need greece. You are fine on your own, plus Turkey is better now in economy compared to 10 years ago. Turkey is fine without EU and arab countries.
I agree with you that you connect the Turkish invasion in Cyprus with the American invasions in Syria, Iraq etc. They happened for same reasons, Imperialism.
Unfortunately, in Cyprus the occupation is different than Iraq's and Syria's, in Cyprus we almost talk for an annexation. like Israel's annexation of Jerusalem which Turkey tries to reverse. this is funny
It doesn't matter for which reason Turkey did it, but the aftermath.. 200.000 refugees and Turkey at least should pay for their properties. International Law.
The truth bro, is that here in Greece we got tired of having a neighbor like you, always aggressive, Always hunting Greeks, since the Byzantines times we are being hunted from you
Cyprus has 80% Greek origins, it was natural everyone wants to be united with Greece, as you would desire the same if Cyprus was populated by 80% Turk origins. But the Turks again in front of us, like an ancient curse.
The Turkish minority of Cyprus would be had the same fate with the minority in Thrace, for 100 years none complained about mass killing by the Greeks. If anyone wanted to kill Turks we had plenty in Thrace.
Anyway, unfortunately, it doesn't matter that we count 200 years as enemies, as it seems we will continue being enemies and Greece is being forced to keep her entire Army to the Turkish side forever and Turkey will have to watch always her back. even if she faces multiple tensions in the East and SouthEast.
+Alpha Stormz have you got a Turkish Cypriot passport ????Have you got a Turkish Cypriot Currency? ??? Have you got a Turkish Cypriot International Airport? ????DO you trade with any country other than Turkey? ????
IIIYoungPibzy maybe because a lot of people died, lost their homes, and when they go to visit they find out that turkey brought a settles to live in it? Tell me , how would you feel if you build your home with your own hands just to see someone else live in it?
You mean that’s what Turkey did to Greek cowards that thought they could human cleanse Turkish Cypriots from the Island. Go ahead you Orthodox clown, as next time Turkey will drop you all into the sea to swim to Israel or Greece.
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2. It is not a country and its people are Greek
3. It is not a country and its people are Greek
4. It is not a country and its people are Greek
5. It is not a country and its people are Greek
6. It is not a country and its people are Greek
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