Things gets personal when Art Center professor Petrula Vrontikis turns the tables with Chris Do during a Facebook Live Q&A session. She asks some hard questions and we get to see Chris in the hot seat. This is part 2 of this series.
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02:03 Q: Who do you respect/admire in business?
03:08 It's a mindset: remove negative associations from certain activities so the path is free for you.
03:52 Q: How did you learn the art of persuasion?
05:30 Be open to debating important issues and listen to contrary perspectives.
07:59 Becoming Hyper-aware: Watching films from both a professional and personal point of view.
10:57 Q: What were the lies that you were told in your design education.
13:25 Your degree doesn't matter. Education is not proportional to success.
16:49 Q: How much business from blind comes from the futur and vice versa?
19:11 Q: What are your biggest challenges in managing creative people?
22:40 Q: What things do you do differently at blind a great community?
24:34 Q: Why is good health good for your creativity?
25:35 Perceived Progress and Control is important to happiness.
27:47 Q: Are your children as creative as you and your wife?
29:23 It doesn't matter what my children choose as their professions, as long as they apply themselves and don't hurt others.
30:00 Q: 50 Years from now, what would you want your children to be thankful to you for.
31:57 Q: How should a designer quit a job respectfully?
34:20 I only want people who want to be here.
35:00 Q: How do you fire someone?
40:00 Q: Why did you choose the name blind?
41:27 Q: (Petrula) What do you do and what are you known for?
42:11 Q: What do you think about the concept of selling out?
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Today we are here after a couple of years and i can definitely say that this channel is the first place i would come if i had a problem or need some education
Chris I want to tell you that you were right and i want a reply from you. You have created a channel which has no other match. You have filled the gap
P.S You are the best
Love this channel! During my middle school/high school years, I tried so hard to find a college program that incorporates both business and design. Idk if I’m just not looking hard enough but I still can’t find it. Came across this channel 3 months ago and it just feels so reassuring to see you bridge the two worlds together! Thank you 😊
- greetings from a De Anza college student currently applying to Art Center -
@13:18 + she should have said that advice and future forecast to everyone back in the 90's, now look all around, where we at? We had dirt cheap internet in the 90s to learn HTML CSS JS but no. Now it's 2018+ and people are scrambling, loosing jobs, etc. We needed this advice from academia in 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999
She was little defensive when it came to Chris POV about "if u get in, you are set up for life". When you are young it is very easy to get into that mindset. When u get older u learn the truth sooner or later. I learned that a few years after getting into the business. But, it is a good interview.
I loved this interview or talk with Chris and had not seen it before. Chris is on the money, and just says it like it is. He is also in tuned to what younger people want.
To succeed, is just a matter of how much you want it and why . Its a mind set . I think. And I feel somewhat liberated with what was doscussed on this conersation/debate :) .
I will keep my eye for more of these videos . Chris you rock!
Wow, I just checked out Lemonade! It's really impressive! I love the vibrant pink on the stark white and the playful theme! It makes the stodgy, formal subject of insurance seem way more palatable, even trusting and familial. Nice job! And I love that they are a B-Corp. I am striving to be a B-Corp in the next 3 years, hopefully I will be able to afford it sooner.
That was a great interview! Once I realized she was not being rude on her phone and I listened for awhile, I really liked listening to Petrula's remarks and point of view. She's a really nice person. Thank you!
That question about the importance of degrees is a difficult one. I have two science degrees (a B.S. and a M.Sc.) from Texas A&M that I completed 20 years ago and sometimes I question why I went into so much debt for the Master's. I had a world-famous scientist as my advisor/committee chair so that was an amazing opportunity! But, overall, I think it probably did not make much difference in my life financially. It made a HUGE difference in my scientific and critical thinking and professional and social skills and that probably can't be underestimated. But I owe a lot in student loans. It's a tough one.
I ended up switching my career focus to Information Technology and web design (thanks to that famous professor who asked me to make a website over my work back in 1997 during which I discovered my passion for web design) and I now run a website and intranet for a large county on a 2-person team with another guy and make $40K a year. I'll be paying back my loans until I die. At least I enjoy what I do though. And I got a great education. That is a valuable thing. But my focus is on my web design business that I'm building and much of that knowledge came from outside of college, from being self-taught on business and self-actualization. But then the Master's degree no doubt gave me a level of confidence that I would not have otherwise had, which has been valuable. I think it was worth it in the end.
Schools have an asset that online training doesn't have- and that's physical people. All the interactions and relationships that can be formed more easily based on direct in person interaction at "real schools" could be their greatest asset. Too bad most schools are not putting money into hiring more faculty, taking on more people not ready for college, and keeping class sizes down and instead investing in the architecture department getting that new fangled set of 3D printers nobody knows how to use and will be outdated in 5 years instead, or giving the dean a promotion.
The part about asking a lot of questions to persuade is really powerful, I never look at it like that before. I'm not good at talking when presenting ideas, I tend to just follow what my client is saying do exactly what he says, I didn't try to defend what my designs 'cause I know I have no idea how to convince him, I'm definitely gonna try this out.
Also lots of yes on suffering through academics and degree programs. People have different learning systems and learning styles. There are some successful people that are drop outs. Especially in people-related industries.
The movie critique is huge! it deepens your scope of direction, awareness, and versatility. I always pause and rewind parts in the movies/shows to take in something inspirational or a small directional or writing detail. Used to drive my girlfriend crazy, but now she gets it! Haha
WAIT. I'm a fan of Chris and The Futur, but isn't that very first answer BS? Him and his team provide an insane amount of extremely valuable information through their videos, but isn't it all just a sales pitch for the packages they sell on their website? I mean, I recently landed my highest paying job so far thanks to these videos and I even thought "wow if I keep this up I might just buy one of their packages and see what extra info and skills I can get out of it". Isn't that what they're trying to do in the end? Please correct me if I'm wrong and from the bottom of my heart thanks once again for sharing your knowledge and helping us achieve our goals.
you are wrong. we make products because we have to fund our operation. if you look at anyone else that gives away the lessons for free without making you watch an ad or hard pitch you products the whole time, then please enlighten us.
most people put their content behind a pay wall or email trap. none of that happens here. we don't edit the content to get you excited then cut you off before it gets good.
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Degrees are important if you are going to academia! Chris you were right on buddy. Thanks for putting out this information! I jog 3x day in between projects, it clear my mind and it allows me to reset. Yoga, meditation all adds up to a super happy productive days.Lost 70 lbs and now ruining like 6 miles / day....
Art Center is becoming afraid, as they should be...they finally have strong competition coming their way, yet they are still cocky because of their legacy. The archaic, antiquated system of traditional academia is getting disrupted at an alarming rate. In a related story, a close friend / colleague of mine who was an ACCD dropout (out of necessity to support his parents after their family owned business that went bankrupt) was invited back their to teach a class on campus, how ironic is that? His name is John Park, and his class was actually the most popular in the Entertainment Design program ever offered there. Now he runs his own school in Los Angeles, where he invites big entertainment studios to come and hire the students directly out of the class when the term ends (no $150k+, 4 year degree required).
Chris, Assistant professor? That is a total disgrace - as the one who is truly successful, self-made and running your own business, and that's the best they could do for you? People want to learn from those out there creating, doing big and real things, solving real problems and making real money out in the world. Higher education is just a means to a end after all - to give you the skills needed to be employable. People are now able to learn from professionals in the field like Chris and his team, who are graciously donating their time and energy, and are able to do so wherever they happen to be geographically in the world. Like aa311's comment says, The Futur is giving things that higher-ed is NOT, not the other way around. Kudos for having the guts to challenge the established Status Quo!
Fantastic episode! I am from India and want to enter the design scene in the US. I have an admit to the grad design program at Art Center. As much as I am excited about it, the price tag bogs me down. This episode(and many others) has got me thinking.
So Chris, my question to you is, how does one freelancing in India, get to be part of the meaty projects/gigs/work. How do I get hired to work full time in design studios. The way I see it, school is the only gateway for me to enter the US. Cause getting a studio or a company to sponsor your H1B is tricky. Can you advise?
FANTASTIC point about schools and the bell-curve dynamic at 14:30. I used to demonize formal education as merely an economic ploy, but I am realizing that it really has a place to help facilitate personal and trade development as long as it is relevantly evolving as the subject matter evolves. Thanks for that!
The Spirit's intelligence and creativity is manifesting to a great degree within you Mr. Do. But do not let your supreme intellect and tact make you forget where you got these qualities and abilities from. I too have a very good philosophy teacher at SJSU and I very much resonate with what you say about debate and being contrarian, because I have always stood out and questioned things and have been skeptical of them. Think about this though: God cannot be proved through logic or by blind belief. God is proved through personal experience, by feeling it in still meditation and then seen as manifesting through our lives, through humor, intellect, and of course creativity. We are creators, made in the image of the Creator; it is only because some of us have worked on developing and manifesting creative thinking in our lives that God's creativity flows through us. We do none of it; we only attune to the harmony of God's laws and allow that will of harmony to flow through us. That is why it feels so good for us to create and do good and "straighten things out" in the business world - because we are using the borrowed intelligence, empathy, and reason from God to manifest it in the world. This cannot be understood or appreciated only through the intellect. This is intuitional feeling. This is the silent voice of God speaking to you through your intuition. To deny the existence of your Self is silly, because trying to disprove something that cannot be proved (logically) is impossible. Therefore God is not possible to be proven, except through personal experience. Therefore I write this purely to intellectually stimulate you Chris, because it seems that you enjoy it. But in my desire to intellectually stimulate you, part of my message to you is to consider that intellectual stimulation is not enough for full realization. Philosophy is great, but it does not touch upon the inner cosmos - the one you are operating to a very good degree, considering you are running a successful business. So I then ask: if you are just stardust, where did the ability for you to be personable, humorous, and creative come from? Are these just incidental consequences of stardust miraculously manifesting these wondrous qualities? So ends my very niche rant on one tiny section I wanted to address in your video. PS I love your videos, just want to provoke you a little bit and poke and stimulate you with a thought of God tonight ;)
I'm with Chris about Uni and teaching. This education mechanics doesn't work as fine, in this field, if you don't have experience first. I'm a country-side girl from a minimum wage salary family, that at 18 got in the most difficult design course of the country. I was working at the same time, being a barmaid or a seller in a call-center, to maintain the university, and I drop out at some point... not because it was impossible to manage, was too hard or I was tired... well, I was tired... but the money and effort I was giving didn't worth it for me... The typography teacher was working in the field at the same time and had a tonne of experience (I worship him, his classes were awesome), but the curse main teacher for example (the most important of them all that teach Project) never left the Uni from the star (since he was a student). And most were like that. It's crazy...(sorry for my English)
loved this (part 1 and 2)! petrula was amazing, you need to have her on again! and course great job chris! it's been inspiring watching you get better on camera with each episode! lots of wisdom and heart chris! thanks again!
I especially like the part about degrees and why it is not as necessary as we all thought. I spent 4 years at design school in Kenya and frankly half of what I've learnt, I learnt working in the field. I am yet to go to a client or agency and be asked about Michelangelo or Statistics. If it were possible to go bak in time, I probably would have skipped all this and done an unpaid internship.
Thank you for the informative videos as always.
I have no idea why you say millennials are not about money...I heard you say this a couple of times and I'm shocked everytime I hear it. I might be an exception, but I'm 24 and money is a huge factor for me and I don't know any millennial that would rather go bowling than if you give then 5k. Honestly, who are you talking to??? It's all about the money
oh alright, I guess I'm an exception according to this article. Thanks for the reply. I'm actually just waiting for the video that says : yeah sorry guys we can't answer all the comments like we use to because we can't keep up! It will happen, BELIEVE!
wow. At which ArtCenter campus are you teaching? I'll be attending in May for graphic design and would really love to say hi and thank you for all of the amazing content you continually provide. I'd really like to take your classes too! I already knew ArtCenter was going to be a wealth of knowledge, but knowing you'll be around in addition, is just amazing.
darn! I'll have to stop by Blind then. Your content has really made me think beyond design. It's always a mental workout! I've been binging on your videos for many months now while continuing to practice my craft every waking moment and I've seen myself develop and grow so much as a designer, a thinker, and a communicator. I'm much more confident now that once I graduate (which for me is not really about the degree but more like my signal for me to know I'm ready to conquer, having absorbed all of the criticism, contacts, and minds of students and faculty), I'll have the business sense to do what I love as a profession, when business was my biggest weakness. If I hadn't been recommended your channel by a former ArtCenter faculty, I would be in for a big, not so fun surprise after graduation. ArtCenter may teach one how to a design, but The Futur teaches one how to be a Designer.
Wow, can't believe you just talked about fitness in relation to happiness. Didn't see that coming, and it's probably one of my biggest challenges at the moment Chris, so it's great to hear that you went through something similar regarding body image etc, and about how you overcame it. Thanks so much for sharing :)
Can absolutely relate to that connection between fitness and happiness, too and also what Petrula said about that fitness is a form of stress release and "The less stress we have, the more we can access our intuition." Really, really loved that part of the interview, because for me this is 100% true, too. Love all the stuff you're putting out here, thanks so much.
Great video, and love the reverse format. I've never once been asked about my qualifications for any jobs or freelance work in my 10+ years in the design industry. What I can demonstrate in my portfolio, and how I conduct myself as both a business, and as an individual, are what matter to employers/clients from my experience.
I have always learn something when ever I watch Chris Videos. And I am not even a graphic designer, but every time I always learn something on business, life, graphic communication ..... etc.
Thanks Chris for being honest with us. Keep it man.
Like Petrula's line of questions. She is a very great conversationalist
Of course. My intention wasn't to attack you guys or anything. Hell, I think you're the best in this kind of field (not that I would know a lot of other people that are doing this stuff for FREE) and I can say that I consider Chris Do as a virtual mentor of some sort.
It was clear that she didn't hear what you said at that moment. I don't get offended when people are looking at their phone when i'm talking, but i don't bother talking. Because you can tell when people aren't hearing you. So i usually stop talking and wait. Sometimes, it takes them a couple minutes to realize i'm not talking, and then they try to say something like, "Yeah!" like they were listening the whole time. So I just wait until they're ready. I'm not going to talk if no one's listening. Although, this is different because even though, she missed what he said, they are recording for us. So he does have people listening.
Chris has this great tactic where he ends his answers or his explanations with a question and I think this is key to his persuasiveness.
He does this a lot, but it really shines in the how-to-quit scenario where he ends with "... you understand how that is, right?" (33:59)
Then, a few seconds later he says, "I just want to be honest with you, *is that OK?*"
This redirection at the end of his explanations does a couple things. First -- and most importantly -- it demonstrates true empathy. Then, it forces the interviewer to double-take for a split second and answer *his* question *before* debating or rebutting Chris' original answer. This gives Chris a lot of leverage, even in his most benign conversations such as this one.
It's almost like a magic trick, slight of hand.
I agree with your point of view regarding getting a Bachelor's Degree. Not a single design job I had required for my grades nor diploma. Sometimes it baffles me that I've learned a lot from your channel versus my degree in Digital Media. Thanks for putting out great content, The Futur! I'm from a remote province from the Philippines and I wouldn't get information like this in my place if it wasn't for your channel.
The degrees may not matter but in my case the company, the connection were very-very valuable. I met a lot of people who made the person who I am today, and to me, who you surround yourself with matter more than the education side. Because in my case, we were in a very "self learning" type school, a lot of the lecturers are seasoned professional and what they're trying to do is to not spoon feed us and let us discover ourselves on our own, that could work for some that may not work for others. I'm lucky that I was able to find peers that were very2 passionate about this stuff and they were very2 ambitious students, and those things are contagious, it really did made me who I am.
Hey Master Do! My question for you is that how to get feedback on your designs or criticism when you don't have a mentor? How do I know that I'm going in the right direction? I am learning design on my own. Most people go for the visual appeal and aesthetics but how do I know if the design is functional and solves the problem?
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